30). Using a unique mechanic in her kit is disincentivized by all these nerfs to her frame data and makes it seem like a waste, which makes Bayonetta feel much more bland and unintuitive as a character. Okay that is an 80% increase in landing lag. I'm still unsure if this thumbnail is a monstrosity or my greatest work yet but here's a funny Bayo guide I made! I have no idea who thought this was true because I have attempted this with all of her moves and this is not true. CAUTION VIDEO IS LOUD! Rendered by PID 9112 on r2-app-012b59f8dfd1ffb29 at 2021-02-18 10:56:46.065428+00:00 running 095aa3a country code: NL. With how much harder it is to pull off her combos, I think if I catch you in one near the top and hit you with an up air to finish the job and ur at a high %, you should die, especially if you are a lightweight. This is probably the most notable and understandable nerf to her F-air. Well if the smash doesn’t whiff bc it connected with the hitbox of K. Rool’s jab, witch time will likely be over and he’ll probably have a second jab ready to punch me off the map with. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. F-air has less 2 less frames of landing lag. For buffs they usually aren't as substantial. Well I have ideas. Bayonetta is faster overall. A Basic Bayonetta Montage by me. Welcome to Reddit's finest Smash Bros community! Is he, you know... (i.redd.it), A Basic Bayonetta Montage by me. It's basically a just step by step complain of every nerf rather than a true analysis. Witch time no longer grants intangability. EDIT: Lol mad people still comment and say "lol this is fake" when: 1. N-Air was supposed to be the way Bayonetta could rack bullet arts on enemies, and now it went from safe to unsafe. So how to fix Bayonetta? Bullet arts can be angled depending on the move. hide. Waiting for Bayonetta 3. Oh and that previous landing lag buff? At higher % maybe an up air, but usually nothing beyond that. The landing lag received for air combos increased. A lot. Witch time has increased startup and endlag. I'm a former Bayo main who has settled to replace her with Palutena, but I still have around 14 hours with Bayo in ultimate and I'd like to open a discussion about her state in the game and why I think she was nerfed too much. 11 frames was excessive. Let me preface this by saying that Bayonetta was OP in smash 4 and needed toned down coming into Ultimate, and that returning her to her state in Smash 4 would be a giant mistake. (self.BayonettaMains), I'm still unsure if this thumbnail is a monstrosity or my greatest work yet but here's a funny Bayo guide I made! Witch Time, guaranteed KO at 50-60+ Decent Fair, Dair and Uair. But when lightweights can survive getting hit off the top with this move at over 200%, it’s pretty clear it was nerfed too much. Remember how Bayo can use F-air 1 to string into itself to send someone off the side of the map? I was expecting something along the lines of a more thorough discussion at the end of how you would have changed Bayo while retaining what people enjoyed about her, but this post just seems like complaining, however reasonable it may be. If Zelda, Meta Knight, Sheik, Palutena, etc. If Heel slide connects with a shield, Bayonetta cannot perform the second hit. Premium. (Samus anybody?) Apparently she’s “bottom tier” because she doesn’t have all of her braindead options from Smash 4. It goes over c02, the orange bayo skin that's already in the game. There was a huge groundswell of Bayo support during the Smash 4 days. The biggest issue with this character is that she went from having too many options to having almost no options. So I get this nerf, it makes sense. This mod attempts to make Bayonetta as close as possible to her Ultimate counterpart, changing her … If they are so concerned that Bayonetta is gonna F-air 1 somebody off the side all they needed to do was remove the bounce. (self.BayonettaMains), Bayonetta & Vanquish 10th Anniversary Bundle (XBO) is $19.99 on Amazon GameStop (PS4/XBO)… https://t.co/9SIPcWovKk (m.media-amazon.com), I never know how to approach (self.BayonettaMains), Bayonetta and Vanquish 10th Anniversary Bundle (PS4/XBO) is $19.99 at Best Buy (pbs.twimg.com), Happy Cakeday, r/BayonettaMains! I don't really think they're going to call it Super Smash 4 Deluxe, and if Sakurai's upcoming project is going to be Smash Bros for Switch (Only if he's more involved with the project.) Unfortunately, there's no UI for it quite yet as I've yet to learn how to edit renders like that. Needing to fully charge it in order to shield cancel goes against her whole “bait and counter” playstyle. Should I be using Bullet Arts on Witch Twist? I never really cared about D-Air and honestly all it’s good for rn is just to get to the ground before your opponent so you have a chance to leverage all the percentage you just put on them before they hit the ground bc of all the endlag you suffer from with her combos. Let me preface this by saying that Bayonetta was OP in smash 4 and needed toned down coming into Ultimate, and that returning her to her state in Smash 4 would be a giant mistake. I'm still having fun with her, but of course she wasn't what she used to be. As if the move wasn’t already risky. What this results in is Bayonetta nickle-and-diming characters, or running around trying to bait a witch time, which is somehow less exciting than watching Salem platform camp Duck Hunt with held neutral A. Back air was not a problem. Thanks! A simple 6 or 7 frame Endlag nerf would cut off her sideways combo. Down throw has less knockback scaling, improving combo potential at high percentages. All hits of F-Air have more endlag. share. Feb 28th! Allowing her to angle the attack would help give her some ranged harass options. Writing her off so fast is wild. Her dash, walk, and air speed is higher. and join one of thousands of communities. The increase in time required to charge is also unnecessary, seeing as how they already nerfed the ability to shield cancel and the move was bad to begin with. It’s an empty buff. If on the ground, you perform heel slide, and if you don't hit an enemy's shield and press B again or hold B, you will perform heel kick as well. You can’t edge guard a lot of things, but bc it’s Bayonetta suddenly there’s an issue with it. Feedback is always appreciated :). Just like the previous buff, means absolutely nothing. A 100% increase in startup lag and a 4 frame increase in endlag. Please Like the video and consider subscribing! That’s negligible. It’s hitbox is jank, priority is awful, and is only reliable for kills near the edge of the stage. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: This is a subreddit for people who main Bayonetta in Super Smash Bros for Wii U and 3DS. I don't like the way bayonetta in smash 4 looks, her head is too big and her legs are too short ;o; Moko Aug 26, 2017 @ 3:45pm Can someone please make an umbra clock tower map Many people have since compared this situation to Bayonetta’s, but I’d say this is unfair. Well hi there. Bat Within. Bayonetta cannot, because she has absolutely no safe options in neutral besides her Bullet Climax, which cannot he held or cancelled until a certain point. Anyway, actually relevant discussion time: So, I got Elite with her after struggling. Josh Thomas is hella salty. (youtube.com), I need help with witch twist (self.BayonettaMains), Sm4sh bayo broken moment killing at zero (v.redd.it), The Smash Ultimate Character Personality Survey (self.SmashBrosUltimate), submitted 7 months ago by TemporarilyExtant, Good easy bay O combos (self.BayonettaMains), Optimal controls for GC controller ? Search It’s quite literally unreasonable how harshly she got nerfed in this department. Feedback is always appreciated :) (youtube.com), submitted 7 months ago by MrWeirdology[], Oh, he's a Bayo main? But that being said, I do think Nintendo went overboard with the nerfs and right now Bayonetta feels incredibly clunky and useless compared to other characters. Witch time lasts about as long as sex with a 15 year old virgin and everyone is acting like “Oh it’s still OP. Okay I agree witch time needed nerfed but it should still scale with enemy damage %. She's a master of the Bullet Arts and can use her hair as a conduit to bring forth Infernal Demons. Once it happens, don't hesitate to ask me if you want the source code for whatever reason Overview: A Skyline plugin for Super Smash … The Bayonetta 1 alt is fantastic, but I have to wonder what you see in her non-Jeanne palettes. Bayonetta in Smash 4 Wii U & 3DS is probably the most controversial and also the best character in the game. Bayonetta entered the Smash universe very recently as part of Smash 4's final batch of DLC characters, and it hasn't taken players long to discover that she's strong... maybe too strong. that's what I felt like also. This is the nerf that pisses me off to an almost unreasonable degree. She brings all these skills and more to Smash, where she'll unleash additional damage if you hold the attack button. Too bad Witch Twist knocks you away too far for an ABK to connect to you at higher percentages. Is it bc you never thought Bayo would be bad? Well lets hope when they address her, they don't nerf her again just bc one Bayo main who made it to high competitive levels won a match with her, It is surreal seeing this as a thing that actually exists. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. He’s just mad that his favorite character was nerfed LMAO. But that being said, I do think Nintendo went overboard with the nerfs and right now Bayonetta feels incredibly clunky and useless compared to other characters. And that would be fine, as it was with 1.1.4 Sheik, but Bayonetta, unlike Sheik, is way too easy to play as. Increased endlag that’s fine, maybe 17 frames of increased endlag was a bit much and you could have accomplished the same task with idk maybe 13 or 15 but oh well. If any other character was at a disadvantage because they were hitting people with attacks due to how laggy they are on the backend, there would be outcry to fix the character. Resources. Currently bullet Climax is very easy to punish. Do you find it helpful? You know for a combo based character, they sure want to kill off Bayonetta’s ability to perform combos don’t they? From 30 to 35. She can’t ladder you off the top anymore guys, this nerf was just pounding nails into the coffin. B-air and normal U-air has less landing lag. (self.BayonettaMains). Makes no sense whatsoever. This is way more significant than you think because it doesn’t make witch twist just an unsafe out of shield option, it makes it an unsafe move pretty much at all. I’ve actually always liked bayonetta but I didn’t enjoy the fact that she was busted in smash 4 so I never bothered to play her. She is incredibly clunky and lacks kill power, her combos are difficult to pull off, easy to escape, can be punished for successful use, and aren’t viable to get kills with. This is a bit more reasonable honestly. Current visitors New profile posts Search profile posts. And here’s an idea. What elevates these ones over them for … Bayonetta in her home series in general.... People nowadays still like to complain a fair amount about bayo but look some of the shit she pulls in her home games and tell me that smash … Latest reviews Search resources. Boo-hoo. All these endlag nerfs do it make it easy to punish a Bayonetta who actually lands her attacks. One of the biggest crybabies on the internet. Makes sense, but nothing else akin to this move should be autocancelling if this move cannot. SO all of this happened to Bayonetta to bring her strength levels down. She is effectively the definition of a low-tier hero, but not a particularly rewarding one and a potentially obnoxious one. Smash attack can now very easily punish Bayonetta for a whiffed Witch Twist, which can easily result in her death because she was made lighter and easier to launch. From 12 to 10 and from 12 to 8. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, the only character i can somewhat relate to cause glasses. And guess what happens if I try? It makes it incredibly easy to punish her for landing successful combos. The only benefit to angling her smash attacks is the fact that you get to see what Madama Butterfly’s fist looks like if she twists it the wrong way. Very thin parts like glasses, earrings, belts on the arms (broke 4/6 but will print again and glue later) but awesome pose and very nice looking :) The current rendition of Bullet arts makes it so a fully held jab 1 can rack 6% of bonus damage on an enemy. I'm convinced that they're keeping an eye on bayonettas performance and feedback since she was extremely problematic in the past. Up tilt launches enemies in a angle that makes it easy to follow up on. Means pretty much nothing when you stop to consider how a lot of aerial attacks come out quicker than ground moves. Bullet Climax was not exactly a giant issue. Press J to jump to the feed. Reverting the knockback angle change would just allow her to secure kills off the top again against enemies weak Enough that they should die. Smash Ultimate Wario Montage (studio.youtube.com), submitted 4 months ago by thebruhfessor - announcement, Bayonetta mains how does it feel to jerk off every night to one op character because you have no skill? 1. They lazily nerfed her in Smash 4 and they lazily nerfed her in Ultimate. This is all fine and dandy until you realize it knocks people back too high up into the air at higher percentages and since her ladder combos are only reliable at low percentages and no longer kill even if pulled off at higher percentages. But this was far too much. Having said that, we are presented with two major issues in Ultimate: the first is that her combo game has been significantly nerfed to the point that her “combos” are built into the moves themselves, but do not reward you with followups or additional combos. These traits often caused players to label her as \"broken\", and many matches involving her became controversial. If you want a good laugh or wanna get into the character, check out this video and lemme know what you think! Witch time used to be overpowered, capping the max duration was smart. What we’re left with is Sheik without a neutral or workable specials. Today you're 5 (self.BayonettaMains), Another Tournament! It provides very large windows to exploit and very small windows to get value. Even if your attack is clearly hitting her in witch time, it just ignores it and they get a free punish but its a punish for playing against her! Welcome to Reddit's finest Super Smash Bros. community!. My reaction to the smash 4 Bayonetta reveal. Downward ABK launches at 80 degrees, allowing it to combo into itself more reliably. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 9112 on r2-app-012b59f8dfd1ffb29 at 2021-02-18 10:56:46.065428+00:00 running 095aa3a country code: NL. The Endlag only went up by 5 frames but every frame counts when ur talking about Nerfs. I like this change but I would rather they just revert the first angle nerf and just make it so there needs to be a buffer attack in between in order to perform a second ABK (Like Witch twist or if it wasn’t nerfed I’d suggest the first hit of her F-air but oh wait. "Bayonetta compilation#2 Moon River" by u/jgonz2040 "Check out my videos on Bayonetta's combo exhibition. Witch Twist had increased startup and endlag (4->8) and (28->32). Capping it this low was stupid. Forward Air no longer bounces, meaning it cannot be followed up with ABK or Witch Twist. Decrease the accumulation of landing lag that an air combo accrues. Smash 4. Which when you consider all the factors, it's pretty clear either Sakurai didn't know what he was doing or he was trying to appease an angry group. This is also without mentioning that Bullet Climax is a pretty bad move to begin with because you cannot angle it and the kill power is low. She takes out Scarborough Fair for her forward air attack. Who thought this was a good idea. Sega already had a character in, Bayonetta 2 was exclusive to Wii U, so people figured that she had a legitimate shot of being in Smash. Witch time duration significantly lowered, duration still scales with damage of attack dodged, but max duration scaled back heavily, while minimum duration also scaled back heavily. Lower damage and increase range on bullet arts. All the third party chosen have been the cream of the crop and video game royalty. If you want a good laugh or wanna get into the character, check out this video and lemme know what you think! Actually, the newcomers, outs of Bayonetta have followed that pattern and Sakurai himself said he won't accept just any third-party. It’s an empty buff. On Wednesday, Super Smash Bros. 4 legend Gonzalo Barrios (“ZeRo”) declared that Bayonetta is the best character in the game right now. Or make it so that the knockup is significant enough that she can combo this into aerials but not another ABK without double jumping. Do Bayonetta mains know more than one combo? Especially since combos make her far laggier when she lands. I don't really get this post. The Super Smash Bros. for Wii U community is divided over Bayonetta. Oh, and Sheik can recover safely, Bayonetta can’t for some reason. Jab connects more reliably but has less range and deals less damage. U-air damage, knockback growth, and knockback angle changed/nerfed. Eiji Funahashi (PlatinumGames) Yeah, this is so amazing. At Frostbite 2018, a Smash 4 tournament earlier this month in Dearborn, Michigan, Smash 4 … Bayonetta is widely recognized, but probably more from her design than her games. Bayonetta in Smash 4 was considered by many players as the best character in the game, even after having received nerfs in updates, due to many of her extreme advantages remaining intact, including most infamously her ability to KO opponents at virtually any percentage with successful ladder combos. Currently she's too easy to edgeguard. This always rounded off combos. Seeing as how her ladder comboes have been removed, I don't see why bringing this back would be an issue. I'd love to discuss this with people and discuss the issue. (self.BayonettaMains), submitted 2 years ago by DudeBrahMcgee - announcement, Tournament! Jesus Christ an 11 frame endlag nerf on the first hit. The shield cancelling wasn’t a problem if you were smart enough to know what she was doing. Bayonetta mains how does it feel to jerk off every night to one op character because you have no skill? Bayonetta is currently in an horrible state. Yeah to an insanely heavy degree. (self.BayonettaMains), Next possible Bayonetta buff. Another Bayonetta uncensor pack since Bayo's other costumes had yet to be uncensored. Heel slide second hit has larger knockback scaling and is harder to combo off of. that nerf was a slap in the wrist at worst, with the only notable change being the nerf on … From 3/2.2/6 to 4/3.3/7. Forward smash has 2 less frames of startup lag and can be angled. And as for angling it? Forward smash is, to put this delicately, the single worst move in Bayos kit. Not cool Nintendo. Can any Bayonetta mains fill me in on the info? This post does a good job of outlining the various nerfs, but not why they matter so I’ll go into that. Tone down landing lag on held Nair to 14 frames. Forgot about that). 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Bayonetta's sideB is different depending on whether you use it on the ground or in the air. Bullet Climax takes longer to charge, needs to be fully charged to be shield cancelled, and autofires after time. Even if we agree she has no 0-death, she still has. All this does is punish Bayonetta for using bullet arts and the B-air landing lag buff means nothing because usually people are knocked away from her harshly enough from her B-air that landing lag doesn’t really matter. "From now on, the Bolshoi Pobeda Smash tournament hosted on April 16th will have the character Bayonetta banned. Bayonetta 1.1. They almost doubled the endlag on her N-Air. it was just pointing out the nerfs with no solution. What she wants to do is combo you, but that would require her to approach which she can’t do, or reliably follow up on a punish which she also cannot do. Yay a 2 frame buff of endlag on B-air if you land during the attack, but a 5 frame increase in endlag if you don’t land during the attack. This one was trickier to print ! This was supposed to also be her recovery move. Crusade; S3AIR +6 ↺1 Sonic 3 A.I.R. Can use moves that let them get back onto the stage safely why is it only an issue when Bayonetta has this ability? Leagues Smash 64 Melee Brawl Project M Smash for 3DS Smash for Wii U Smash 3DS [Online] Smash Wii U [Online] Ultimate. This neuters her recovery and makes her too easy to edgeguard. This is a nice buff, but Bayonetta being slow was never an issue. Once smash updates past 10.1.0, this rework will be marked as obsolete. Bayonetta, on the other hand, is designed to have inherent lag on all of her moves, and incurs addition lag with special stacking as those moves are designed to be used in tandem with each other. Cookies help us deliver our Services. It is a wide spread truth that Bayonetta is the best, most broken character in all of Smash 4, but it doesn't have to be like that anymore! Why does a parry style move have startup lag? This thread is archived. I have yet to see any. D-Air has less knockback and more 2 more frames of endlag (28->30). Using a unique mechanic in her kit is disincentivized by all these nerfs to her frame data and makes it seem like a waste, which makes Bayonetta feel much more bland and unintuitive as a character. Okay that is an 80% increase in landing lag. I'm still unsure if this thumbnail is a monstrosity or my greatest work yet but here's a funny Bayo guide I made! I have no idea who thought this was true because I have attempted this with all of her moves and this is not true. CAUTION VIDEO IS LOUD! Rendered by PID 9112 on r2-app-012b59f8dfd1ffb29 at 2021-02-18 10:56:46.065428+00:00 running 095aa3a country code: NL. With how much harder it is to pull off her combos, I think if I catch you in one near the top and hit you with an up air to finish the job and ur at a high %, you should die, especially if you are a lightweight. This is probably the most notable and understandable nerf to her F-air. Well if the smash doesn’t whiff bc it connected with the hitbox of K. Rool’s jab, witch time will likely be over and he’ll probably have a second jab ready to punch me off the map with. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. F-air has less 2 less frames of landing lag. For buffs they usually aren't as substantial. Well I have ideas. Bayonetta is faster overall. A Basic Bayonetta Montage by me. Welcome to Reddit's finest Smash Bros community! Is he, you know... (i.redd.it), A Basic Bayonetta Montage by me. It's basically a just step by step complain of every nerf rather than a true analysis. Witch time no longer grants intangability. EDIT: Lol mad people still comment and say "lol this is fake" when: 1. N-Air was supposed to be the way Bayonetta could rack bullet arts on enemies, and now it went from safe to unsafe. So how to fix Bayonetta? Bullet arts can be angled depending on the move. hide. Waiting for Bayonetta 3. Oh and that previous landing lag buff? At higher % maybe an up air, but usually nothing beyond that. The landing lag received for air combos increased. A lot. Witch time has increased startup and endlag. I'm a former Bayo main who has settled to replace her with Palutena, but I still have around 14 hours with Bayo in ultimate and I'd like to open a discussion about her state in the game and why I think she was nerfed too much. 11 frames was excessive. Let me preface this by saying that Bayonetta was OP in smash 4 and needed toned down coming into Ultimate, and that returning her to her state in Smash 4 would be a giant mistake. (self.BayonettaMains), I'm still unsure if this thumbnail is a monstrosity or my greatest work yet but here's a funny Bayo guide I made! Witch Time, guaranteed KO at 50-60+ Decent Fair, Dair and Uair. But when lightweights can survive getting hit off the top with this move at over 200%, it’s pretty clear it was nerfed too much. Remember how Bayo can use F-air 1 to string into itself to send someone off the side of the map? I was expecting something along the lines of a more thorough discussion at the end of how you would have changed Bayo while retaining what people enjoyed about her, but this post just seems like complaining, however reasonable it may be. If Zelda, Meta Knight, Sheik, Palutena, etc. If Heel slide connects with a shield, Bayonetta cannot perform the second hit. Premium. (Samus anybody?) Apparently she’s “bottom tier” because she doesn’t have all of her braindead options from Smash 4. It goes over c02, the orange bayo skin that's already in the game. There was a huge groundswell of Bayo support during the Smash 4 days. The biggest issue with this character is that she went from having too many options to having almost no options. So I get this nerf, it makes sense. This mod attempts to make Bayonetta as close as possible to her Ultimate counterpart, changing her … If they are so concerned that Bayonetta is gonna F-air 1 somebody off the side all they needed to do was remove the bounce. (self.BayonettaMains), Bayonetta & Vanquish 10th Anniversary Bundle (XBO) is $19.99 on Amazon GameStop (PS4/XBO)… https://t.co/9SIPcWovKk (m.media-amazon.com), I never know how to approach (self.BayonettaMains), Bayonetta and Vanquish 10th Anniversary Bundle (PS4/XBO) is $19.99 at Best Buy (pbs.twimg.com), Happy Cakeday, r/BayonettaMains! I don't really think they're going to call it Super Smash 4 Deluxe, and if Sakurai's upcoming project is going to be Smash Bros for Switch (Only if he's more involved with the project.) Unfortunately, there's no UI for it quite yet as I've yet to learn how to edit renders like that. Needing to fully charge it in order to shield cancel goes against her whole “bait and counter” playstyle. Should I be using Bullet Arts on Witch Twist? I never really cared about D-Air and honestly all it’s good for rn is just to get to the ground before your opponent so you have a chance to leverage all the percentage you just put on them before they hit the ground bc of all the endlag you suffer from with her combos. Let me preface this by saying that Bayonetta was OP in smash 4 and needed toned down coming into Ultimate, and that returning her to her state in Smash 4 would be a giant mistake. I'm still having fun with her, but of course she wasn't what she used to be. As if the move wasn’t already risky. What this results in is Bayonetta nickle-and-diming characters, or running around trying to bait a witch time, which is somehow less exciting than watching Salem platform camp Duck Hunt with held neutral A. Back air was not a problem. Thanks! A simple 6 or 7 frame Endlag nerf would cut off her sideways combo. Down throw has less knockback scaling, improving combo potential at high percentages. All hits of F-Air have more endlag. share. Feb 28th! Allowing her to angle the attack would help give her some ranged harass options. Writing her off so fast is wild. Her dash, walk, and air speed is higher. and join one of thousands of communities. The increase in time required to charge is also unnecessary, seeing as how they already nerfed the ability to shield cancel and the move was bad to begin with. It’s an empty buff. If on the ground, you perform heel slide, and if you don't hit an enemy's shield and press B again or hold B, you will perform heel kick as well. You can’t edge guard a lot of things, but bc it’s Bayonetta suddenly there’s an issue with it. Feedback is always appreciated :). Just like the previous buff, means absolutely nothing. A 100% increase in startup lag and a 4 frame increase in endlag. Please Like the video and consider subscribing! That’s negligible. It’s hitbox is jank, priority is awful, and is only reliable for kills near the edge of the stage. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: This is a subreddit for people who main Bayonetta in Super Smash Bros for Wii U and 3DS. I don't like the way bayonetta in smash 4 looks, her head is too big and her legs are too short ;o; Moko Aug 26, 2017 @ 3:45pm Can someone please make an umbra clock tower map Many people have since compared this situation to Bayonetta’s, but I’d say this is unfair. Well hi there. Bat Within. Bayonetta cannot, because she has absolutely no safe options in neutral besides her Bullet Climax, which cannot he held or cancelled until a certain point. Anyway, actually relevant discussion time: So, I got Elite with her after struggling. Josh Thomas is hella salty. (youtube.com), I need help with witch twist (self.BayonettaMains), Sm4sh bayo broken moment killing at zero (v.redd.it), The Smash Ultimate Character Personality Survey (self.SmashBrosUltimate), submitted 7 months ago by TemporarilyExtant, Good easy bay O combos (self.BayonettaMains), Optimal controls for GC controller ? Search It’s quite literally unreasonable how harshly she got nerfed in this department. Feedback is always appreciated :) (youtube.com), submitted 7 months ago by MrWeirdology[], Oh, he's a Bayo main? But that being said, I do think Nintendo went overboard with the nerfs and right now Bayonetta feels incredibly clunky and useless compared to other characters. Witch time lasts about as long as sex with a 15 year old virgin and everyone is acting like “Oh it’s still OP. Okay I agree witch time needed nerfed but it should still scale with enemy damage %. She's a master of the Bullet Arts and can use her hair as a conduit to bring forth Infernal Demons. Once it happens, don't hesitate to ask me if you want the source code for whatever reason Overview: A Skyline plugin for Super Smash … The Bayonetta 1 alt is fantastic, but I have to wonder what you see in her non-Jeanne palettes. Bayonetta in Smash 4 Wii U & 3DS is probably the most controversial and also the best character in the game. Bayonetta entered the Smash universe very recently as part of Smash 4's final batch of DLC characters, and it hasn't taken players long to discover that she's strong... maybe too strong. that's what I felt like also. This is the nerf that pisses me off to an almost unreasonable degree. She brings all these skills and more to Smash, where she'll unleash additional damage if you hold the attack button. Too bad Witch Twist knocks you away too far for an ABK to connect to you at higher percentages. Is it bc you never thought Bayo would be bad? Well lets hope when they address her, they don't nerf her again just bc one Bayo main who made it to high competitive levels won a match with her, It is surreal seeing this as a thing that actually exists. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. He’s just mad that his favorite character was nerfed LMAO. But that being said, I do think Nintendo went overboard with the nerfs and right now Bayonetta feels incredibly clunky and useless compared to other characters. And that would be fine, as it was with 1.1.4 Sheik, but Bayonetta, unlike Sheik, is way too easy to play as. Increased endlag that’s fine, maybe 17 frames of increased endlag was a bit much and you could have accomplished the same task with idk maybe 13 or 15 but oh well. If any other character was at a disadvantage because they were hitting people with attacks due to how laggy they are on the backend, there would be outcry to fix the character. Resources. Currently bullet Climax is very easy to punish. Do you find it helpful? You know for a combo based character, they sure want to kill off Bayonetta’s ability to perform combos don’t they? From 30 to 35. She can’t ladder you off the top anymore guys, this nerf was just pounding nails into the coffin. B-air and normal U-air has less landing lag. (self.BayonettaMains). Makes no sense whatsoever. This is way more significant than you think because it doesn’t make witch twist just an unsafe out of shield option, it makes it an unsafe move pretty much at all. I’ve actually always liked bayonetta but I didn’t enjoy the fact that she was busted in smash 4 so I never bothered to play her. She is incredibly clunky and lacks kill power, her combos are difficult to pull off, easy to escape, can be punished for successful use, and aren’t viable to get kills with. This is a bit more reasonable honestly. Current visitors New profile posts Search profile posts. And here’s an idea. What elevates these ones over them for … Bayonetta in her home series in general.... People nowadays still like to complain a fair amount about bayo but look some of the shit she pulls in her home games and tell me that smash … Latest reviews Search resources. Boo-hoo. All these endlag nerfs do it make it easy to punish a Bayonetta who actually lands her attacks. One of the biggest crybabies on the internet. Makes sense, but nothing else akin to this move should be autocancelling if this move cannot. SO all of this happened to Bayonetta to bring her strength levels down. She is effectively the definition of a low-tier hero, but not a particularly rewarding one and a potentially obnoxious one. Smash attack can now very easily punish Bayonetta for a whiffed Witch Twist, which can easily result in her death because she was made lighter and easier to launch. From 12 to 10 and from 12 to 8. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, the only character i can somewhat relate to cause glasses. And guess what happens if I try? It makes it incredibly easy to punish her for landing successful combos. The only benefit to angling her smash attacks is the fact that you get to see what Madama Butterfly’s fist looks like if she twists it the wrong way. Very thin parts like glasses, earrings, belts on the arms (broke 4/6 but will print again and glue later) but awesome pose and very nice looking :) The current rendition of Bullet arts makes it so a fully held jab 1 can rack 6% of bonus damage on an enemy. I'm convinced that they're keeping an eye on bayonettas performance and feedback since she was extremely problematic in the past. Up tilt launches enemies in a angle that makes it easy to follow up on. Means pretty much nothing when you stop to consider how a lot of aerial attacks come out quicker than ground moves. Bullet Climax was not exactly a giant issue. Press J to jump to the feed. Reverting the knockback angle change would just allow her to secure kills off the top again against enemies weak Enough that they should die. Smash Ultimate Wario Montage (studio.youtube.com), submitted 4 months ago by thebruhfessor - announcement, Bayonetta mains how does it feel to jerk off every night to one op character because you have no skill? 1. They lazily nerfed her in Smash 4 and they lazily nerfed her in Ultimate. This is all fine and dandy until you realize it knocks people back too high up into the air at higher percentages and since her ladder combos are only reliable at low percentages and no longer kill even if pulled off at higher percentages. But this was far too much. Having said that, we are presented with two major issues in Ultimate: the first is that her combo game has been significantly nerfed to the point that her “combos” are built into the moves themselves, but do not reward you with followups or additional combos. These traits often caused players to label her as \"broken\", and many matches involving her became controversial. If you want a good laugh or wanna get into the character, check out this video and lemme know what you think! Witch time used to be overpowered, capping the max duration was smart. What we’re left with is Sheik without a neutral or workable specials. Today you're 5 (self.BayonettaMains), Another Tournament! It provides very large windows to exploit and very small windows to get value. Even if your attack is clearly hitting her in witch time, it just ignores it and they get a free punish but its a punish for playing against her! Welcome to Reddit's finest Super Smash Bros. community!. My reaction to the smash 4 Bayonetta reveal. Downward ABK launches at 80 degrees, allowing it to combo into itself more reliably. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 9112 on r2-app-012b59f8dfd1ffb29 at 2021-02-18 10:56:46.065428+00:00 running 095aa3a country code: NL. The Endlag only went up by 5 frames but every frame counts when ur talking about Nerfs. I like this change but I would rather they just revert the first angle nerf and just make it so there needs to be a buffer attack in between in order to perform a second ABK (Like Witch twist or if it wasn’t nerfed I’d suggest the first hit of her F-air but oh wait. "Bayonetta compilation#2 Moon River" by u/jgonz2040 "Check out my videos on Bayonetta's combo exhibition. Witch Twist had increased startup and endlag (4->8) and (28->32). Capping it this low was stupid. Forward Air no longer bounces, meaning it cannot be followed up with ABK or Witch Twist. Decrease the accumulation of landing lag that an air combo accrues. Smash 4. Which when you consider all the factors, it's pretty clear either Sakurai didn't know what he was doing or he was trying to appease an angry group. This is also without mentioning that Bullet Climax is a pretty bad move to begin with because you cannot angle it and the kill power is low. She takes out Scarborough Fair for her forward air attack. Who thought this was a good idea. Sega already had a character in, Bayonetta 2 was exclusive to Wii U, so people figured that she had a legitimate shot of being in Smash. Witch time duration significantly lowered, duration still scales with damage of attack dodged, but max duration scaled back heavily, while minimum duration also scaled back heavily. Lower damage and increase range on bullet arts. All the third party chosen have been the cream of the crop and video game royalty. If you want a good laugh or wanna get into the character, check out this video and lemme know what you think! Actually, the newcomers, outs of Bayonetta have followed that pattern and Sakurai himself said he won't accept just any third-party. It’s an empty buff. On Wednesday, Super Smash Bros. 4 legend Gonzalo Barrios (“ZeRo”) declared that Bayonetta is the best character in the game right now. Or make it so that the knockup is significant enough that she can combo this into aerials but not another ABK without double jumping. Do Bayonetta mains know more than one combo? Especially since combos make her far laggier when she lands. I don't really get this post. The Super Smash Bros. for Wii U community is divided over Bayonetta. Oh, and Sheik can recover safely, Bayonetta can’t for some reason. Jab connects more reliably but has less range and deals less damage. U-air damage, knockback growth, and knockback angle changed/nerfed. Eiji Funahashi (PlatinumGames) Yeah, this is so amazing. At Frostbite 2018, a Smash 4 tournament earlier this month in Dearborn, Michigan, Smash 4 … Bayonetta is widely recognized, but probably more from her design than her games. Bayonetta in Smash 4 was considered by many players as the best character in the game, even after having received nerfs in updates, due to many of her extreme advantages remaining intact, including most infamously her ability to KO opponents at virtually any percentage with successful ladder combos. Currently she's too easy to edgeguard. This always rounded off combos. Seeing as how her ladder comboes have been removed, I don't see why bringing this back would be an issue. I'd love to discuss this with people and discuss the issue. (self.BayonettaMains), submitted 2 years ago by DudeBrahMcgee - announcement, Tournament! Jesus Christ an 11 frame endlag nerf on the first hit. The shield cancelling wasn’t a problem if you were smart enough to know what she was doing. Bayonetta mains how does it feel to jerk off every night to one op character because you have no skill? Bayonetta is currently in an horrible state. Yeah to an insanely heavy degree. (self.BayonettaMains), Next possible Bayonetta buff. Another Bayonetta uncensor pack since Bayo's other costumes had yet to be uncensored. Heel slide second hit has larger knockback scaling and is harder to combo off of. that nerf was a slap in the wrist at worst, with the only notable change being the nerf on … From 3/2.2/6 to 4/3.3/7. Forward smash has 2 less frames of startup lag and can be angled. And as for angling it? Forward smash is, to put this delicately, the single worst move in Bayos kit. Not cool Nintendo. Can any Bayonetta mains fill me in on the info? This post does a good job of outlining the various nerfs, but not why they matter so I’ll go into that. Tone down landing lag on held Nair to 14 frames. Forgot about that). This is an update on the Russian Smash scene's Bayonetta ban, context you should read first here. CS:GO +1 ↺5 Counter-Strike: Global Offensive; HL +4 ↺2 Half-Life; HL2 +2 ↺2 Half-Life 2

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